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A dive into digital interlinks – coaxial cables

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A dive into digital interlinks – coaxial cables

The jitter measurements

Contents

A quick look at the measurements. We measured ten different cables, counting the Audioquest Diamond as two cables for a moment, since we tested it with and without DBS. The results can be found in the table and graph below. First we will go through the salient points per cable.

Baseline measurement

We took our Hirschmann BNC of 50cm. This is an official, coaxial measurement cable with BNC connectors. With this we also calibrate the Wavecrest if necessary.

You can see that the internal 10 MHz calibration-clock of the Wavecrest gives nice values. Note that this clock is not used for measuring jitter. This machine does that differently; for example, with asynchronous random sampling. However, this is not the place to go into that.

We see around 2.5 ps jitter, -69 dBc/Hz phase noise at 10dB offset and 2.5 ps (1-sigma) LFM (Low Frequency Modulation) jitter. We’ll take this as a baseline for a moment.

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Hirshmann BNC 0.5M 2.528 ps -69.19 dBc/Hz 2.627 ps 2.54 ps 34.98 ps 20 Euro

Hirschmann BNC

(At the bottom you can see Freq (The input frequency) – Rise (rise time of the square wave) – Fall (the fall time/fall time of the square wave) – Width (width of the square wave in time)).

When we put the square wave on our scope, we don’t see anything crazy compared to the rest of the test field. The differences tend to be very subtle. With two – actually three – exceptions. More on that later.

The rest of the test field!

So we have nine more cables where we measure the Audioquest Diamond twice: with DBS connected and without voltage on the DBS system. This is to chart any influence.

You will see that with decent, coaxial cables, the differences are extremely small. With coaxial cables with RCA connection – which is NOT perfectly 75 Ohm, which is measurable and also influenced by the adapter – it is between 3 and 5 ps. We estimate that the differences come from shielding, connector material and perhaps a piece of geometry. But the fact is: there are sometimes external influences.

Note: the length of the cable also has an influence. Know that the Audioquests are 1.5 meters each. The competitors are 1 meter. That also has some influence on jitter. Keep that in mind.

Audiomaat BNC – 1 meter

We had some cables from Audiomaat left over from a reader of ours. These had been sent and did not need to be returned. Now it is always handy to have cables lying around. Especially for research.

Now most BNCs measure fine, as you can see. This Audiomate, however, shoots through the roof. And not in a positive sense. The jitter goes up by a factor of five to even seven! Strange.

Since we have two equal cables lying around, we decided to sacrifice one for science. Turns out: it’s not a coaxial cable at all. It’s just two normal stranded cables soldered to a BNC. It looks like lamp wire….

You will understand that these cables are totally unsuitable for transporting a 10 MHz clock signal. And also totally unsuitable for processing other digital signals (again, just think about the characteristic impedance!). And this test also shows that. Very bizarre that this is sold as a BNC interlink.

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Audio M-way 12.762 ps -54.84 dBc/Hz 15.04 ps 11.832 ps 175 ps 250 Euro

Audiomaat Mway BNC

This isn’t going well at all! Look at the noise on the square wave! This is the result of an unshielded cable…. Something unthinkable with an official coaxial cable. Next, looking at the rise and fall times, we see something crazy there too: the fall time is significantly longer than the rise time. That’s not supposed to be the case.

Audioquest Forest – 1.5 meters

The entry-level Audioquest performs really nicely! In fact, it is at the top of the field. And that with 39 Euro for 1.5 meters. That is a very nice performance Audioquest shows here.

We see an average jitter of about 3.6 ps. Considering the fact that they are RCA connectors and we have to use adapters, that’s neat. You can see the rest of the measurements in the table below.

All in all, a stellar performance from this entry-level Audioquest!

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Audioquest Forest – 1.5M 3.637 ps -65.69 dBc/Hz 3.793 ps 3.676 ps 50,952 ps 39 Euro

Audioquest Forest

We didn’t expect the Forest to score so neatly. For a coaxial cable with rca plugs, we think this is pretty impressive! It is comparable to the BNCs if we look closely. Ringing is even less than with the Sommer BNC. This could be due to a little more attenuation, or the fact that the BNCs have 50 Ohm characteristic impedance and we terminate with 75 Ohm. Still. good score.

Audioquest Cinnamon – 1.5 meters

The Cinnamon is next in line from Audioquest. Now we see a bit of a wacky trend emerging. The higher up the line we go, the higher the jitter gets. Even though it’s tenths of picoseconds we add. You may not hear that; we can measure it. And we honestly can’t explain it very well.

The Cinnamon, however, still does nicely when we look at overall performance.

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Audioquest Cinnamon – 1.5M 4,328 ps -64.92 dBc / Hz 4,205 ps 4,346 ps 61,327 ps 109 Euro

Audioquest Cinnamon

The Cinnamon and Forest – and Carbon – perform almost identically here. We see no crazy overshoot or ringing. Rise and Fall times are well proportioned. Excellent score.

Audioquest Carbon – 1.5 meters

As with the Cinnamon, we see a slight increase in jitter values. We are guessing that this is also the plugs, since they are also different. Who knows: we can’t cut all the cables of course!

However, again the values are just neat, considering that we are dealing here with RCA coaxial interlinks with an adapter that we are forced to use. The price difference with the Cinnamon is significant. Also with the listening test in mind.

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Audioquest Carbon – 1.5M 4.6 ps -64.132 dBc/ Hz 4.339 ps 4,339 ps 64,329 ps 309 Euro

Audioquest Carbon

We see a neat square wave, free of noise or distortion. This is a very similar picture to those in the Forest and Cinnamon; slightly more attenuation, but almost negligible (we’re guessing this has to do with the slightly higher capacitance; see the LCR measurements below).

No crazy overshoots or ringing. It’s even a bit less than with the Sommer and Ixos. All in all, a good score.

Audioquest Diamond – DBS – 1.5 meters

The Diamond fits the bill for more expensive but slightly higher jitter. It shows that one number does not paint the total picture. Also, these measurements show that we need to dive deeper. Take a closer look at the graphical representation of Low Frequency Modulation. In the version where we pull the plug, it’s actually higher, but apparently the Wavecrest counts it as lower on average….

However: all in all, the Diamond scores better without the system active. It’s subtle, but reproducible. And it’s also audible. What you like better we’ll leave to you.

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Audioquest Diamond DBS – 1.5M 4,912 ps -62.82 dBc/Hz 5,301 ps 5,068 ps 69,669 ps 1750 Euro

Audioquest Diamond - DBS

The square wave is very clean – as with the rest of the Audioquest cables. However, we see the influence of the DBS system. First of all, the square wave is smaller; as soon as we plug in the Diamond, the amplitude drops. (Just look at the other cables). That may have to do with the slightly higher capacitance in this cable.

Now we must say that Audioquest has completely solved the “DBS problem” we had discovered earlier. Indeed, the block waves are identical when the DBS-system is energized and not energized. However, in both cases the fall time is longer than the rise time. This can also be seen in the “skirt” at the base. And that’s kind of strange…

Audioquest Diamond – No DBS – 1.5 meters

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Audioquest Diamond no DBS – 1,5M 4,735 ps -63.08 dBc/ Hz 4.842 ps 4.79 ps 67.035 ps 1750 Euro

Audioquest Diamond - No DBS

Albedo silver BNC – 1 meter

Wow… this is going badly wrong too! A jitter value that doubles on average: that’s just not possible with a decent BNC cable. Unless… it’s not a coaxial cable. Our suspicions are confirmed as soon as we strip the cable. Shame on you, Albedo…

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Albedo BNC – 1M 7.331 ps -58.621 dBc/Hz 8.332 ps 6.962 ps 102.3 ps 387 Euro

Albedo Digital BNC

Again, we see noise on the square wave. And an extremely poor ratio of rise to fall time. This is disproportionately bad. What else should we say about this: avoid these cables.

Sommer BNC – 1 meter

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Sommer BNC – 1M 2.662 ps -69.336 dBc/Hz 2.789 ps 2.657ps 36.98 ps 38 Euro

 

Not entirely surprisingly, we see good scores equivalent to the Hirschmann measurement cables. These are very tight scores that are probably at the limit of the calibration clock. Maybe with a direct sma-connection we can get sub 2ps scores…maybe.

Sommer BNC

No crazy things here either, although there does seem to be a bit more ‘overshoot’ on the square wave when we compare it to the Hirschmann and Audioquests. Whether that is ‘audible’ remains to be seen. Other than that, the square wave is free of noise or other distortion and the rise and fall time is nicely balanced.

Ixos 105 coax – 1 meter

This cable is kind of surprising since it measures incredibly well. But does not sound very good. How that is possible, is the big question. We don’t see anything crazy in the measurements. Everything seems fine when we look at the scores. In other words: perfect measurement cable…. but not as perfect as digital interlink.

Cable Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise Phase Noise 1-sigma Low Freq Mod 1-sigma Total Jitter Price
Ixos 105 Coax – 1M 3.342 ps -65.964 dBc/Hz 3.56 ps 3.376 ps 46.636 ps ?

Ixos 105

Again, neat scores. Everything is in order: no noise, no excessive overshoots and rise and fall time is perfectly balanced.

Wavecrest jitter measurements overview

Type

All coax have 2 BNC -> Coax adapter plugs! This has impact on performance.

Total Jitter Average RMS Jitter Phase Noise /10Hz offset / 10Hz width Phase Noise 1-Sigma Low Freq Modulation 1-Sigma
Hirshmann BNC 0.5M 34.98 ps 2.528 ps -69.19 dBc/Hz 2.627 ps 2.54 ps
Albedo BNC – 1M 102.30 ps 7.331 ps -58.621 dBc/Hz 8.332 ps 6.962 ps
Sommer BNC – 1M 36.98 ps 2.662 ps -69.336 dBc/Hz 2.789 ps 2.657 ps
Audio M-Way BNC 175.471 ps 12.762 ps -54.84 dBc/Hz 15.04 ps 11.832 ps
Ixos 105 Coax – 1M 46.636 ps 3.342 ps -65.964 dBc/Hz 3.56 ps 3.376 ps
Audioquest Forest – 1.5 M 50.952 ps 3.637 ps -65.69 dBc/Hz 3.793 ps 3.676 ps
Audioquest Cinnamon – 1.5 M 61.327 ps 4.328 ps -64.92 dBc/Hz 4.205 ps 4.346 ps
Audioquest Carbon – 1.5 M 64.329 ps 4.6 ps -64.132 dBc/Hz 4.339 ps 4.339 ps
Audioquest Diamond DBS – 1.5 M 69.669 ps 4.912 ps -62.82 dBc/Hz 5.301 ps 5.068 ps
Audioquest Diamond no DBS – 1.5 M 67.035 ps 4.735 ps -63.08 dBc/Hz 4.842 ps 4.79 ps

Overview in graph form

You can see that the bulk of Audioquest cables lie together in terms of jitter and phase noise. That means the cables have little to no impact on jitter. So technically, it’s all right. Although we do find it odd that the more expensive the cable, the higher the jitter. Even though it is only 2ps difference in total; it is reproducible and therefore constant.

The Albedo and Audiomat Mway stand out negatively. These are not coaxial cables. The Albedo is a twisted pair cable and the Audiomaat is just a kind of lamp wire: the wires are parallel to each other. That does not work at all… as you can see. The jitter increases enormously.

Cable properties Audioquest coax interlinks

For your – and our – imaging, we have linked all Audioquest cables to the LCR. The reason we grabbed only AQ is that the lengths are the same. Length affects measurements.

You can see that differences can be measured and sometimes they are reflected in the other measurements. Consider difference is capacitance.

It is noticeable that the Forest has a higher conductance than the Cinnamon. And the Carbon again above the Diamond. The Cinnamon responds a bit odd in the impedance/phase test. Now this is not directly linked to the “weird focus,” since this is not analog signal.

In terms of impedance, we see that Diamond and Carbon are close to each other. Forest is a bit higher and Cinnamon relatively very low again. Know that we are talking about mOhms; practically nothing. Although it does increase at 10 MHz of course; impedance is frequency-dependent.

More than jitter?

Our listening tests show that there is more to it than pure jitter. Although the Ixos 105 scores well, it sounds less pleasant than the Sommer BNC and Audioquest Forest. And where the Forest plays very well, the Audioquest Diamond again brings a little more calmness and feels more complete….

However, the listening test also reveals that the Audiomaat just overshoots in jitter. The cable is also unshielded and does not adhere to standards…. so there are limits. And the Wavecrest shows them….

8 COMMENTS

  1. Ha Jaap, Vanuit een Minidsp SHD Studio streamer met Dirac kon ik alleen met coax naar mijn dac. Daar zit nu een Audioquest Carbon kabel. Zoals je schrijft is een coax kabel nooit perfect 75 Ohm. Nu met een nieuwe dac heb ik ook de mogelijkheid om een digitale XLR kabel in te zetten. In dat geval 150 Ohm. Zou dat in principe een betere verbinding opleveren? Ik kan er heel weinig over vinden. Tests worden vooral uitgevoerd tussen coax, usb of I2S.
    Groet, Jaap

  2. Only the phase. I also did the amplitude via rePhase, few and smooth -> minimizing the phase change -> convolution file

    I have been using that file for three years but after flattening the acoustic phase the sound has improved a lot. The funny thing is that I like my integrated hybrid Magnat MA 900 sounds better now with Direct off, it’s as if the magic of the tubes appeared!

    I go back to the original convolution and I prefer Direct on. I recover the new one and Direct off.

    Why? The important thing is that I notice the change and by a lot.

  3. Great work, you are a “machine”!!!

    Speaking of the phase, for about two weeks my second audio equipment sounds much better. I was doing tests modifying the phase, first the electrical phase of the KEF Q100 coaxial speakers (modified by me and which sound much better than the originals) and then the acoustic phase at the LISTENING POINT.

    The improvement is enormous by flattening the acoustic phase. You should do a test. Measuring the acoustic phase with REW and then flattening it with rePhase -> convolution file -> JRiver MC

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